LOL..

I don't have a 1710 either, but I do have a 1702, 1717, and two 54:18 MS R's.

Didn't feel the need for a 1710 since I have the 54:18's.

Arguably one of the best triggers on the planet, bull barrel, and as far as I am concerned, the only Match actioned repeater that Anschutz makes, which is why I own 2 of them.

When I turned 50, I sat there looking around and said it was time to realize my fantasy of years, which was to own a 54:18 MS R, so I bought one, then another a year later.

Then I bought a 1717, 1702, three 1502's, and my conversion to the dark side of Annie's was almost complete.

I sent one of the 54:18's off to Leroy at Canyon Creek, and he made what I consider to be my ultimate sporter. A custom, one off, 54:18 Sporter.

No need for a 1710 now for sure.

If you checked that other thread, you saw the "factory target" LeRoy sent with it.. friggin' outstanding..

Holy cow, what rabbit or squirrel is gonna be missed by that kind of accuracy?

YMMV of course, but to me the 54:18 MS R is one of the best .22 rifles on the planet.

 

Yes, I did see your rifle and target pics. I went strait to Canyon Creek website and will contact them. Neal Stepp has a barreled action, and I have tried to contact him, but he is not the easiest person to get in touch with. I baught my 1717 from him. What length barrel and weight barrel is on the 54.18? Also, does it have the same action as the 1710?

 

I talked to Neil this week about this same thing . The wieght of 54.18 msr is 8lbs 13 ounces so this gun is too heavy for my needs .I don't know what is the limit on silhoutte but I think you could only shoot 1 class . BTW the 54.18 was 2700.00
The 1710 was a thousand cheaper and could shoot both classes .

 

It is not the same action nor the same trigger. Not even close

 

If you want a rifle for shooting both classes of silhouette go with the 1712. The 54.18 will only make Standard Rifle 10.2 lbs Max, Hunter is 8.5 lbs max with 2 lb trigger. It would also require a rebarrel and re-stocking. People have been using these 54.18 actions for awhile not to make "FrankenHunter" rifles by replacing the barrel with a tapered Lilja etc and then dropping it into a Pharr style sporter stock and changing the trigger springs to get it up to 2 lbs if needed.


Bo

 

If you want a rifle for shooting both classes of silhouette go with the 1712. The 54.18 will only make Standard Rifle 10.2 lbs Max, Hunter is 8.5 lbs max with 2 lb trigger. It would also require a rebarrel and re-stocking. People have been using these 54.18 actions for awhile not to make "FrankenHunter" rifles by replacing the barrel with a tapered Lilja etc and then dropping it into a Pharr style sporter stock and changing the trigger springs to get it up to 2 lbs if needed.

Bo

I suspect that the OP is just looking for a gun for a very accurate general purpose target gunt,not a dedicated silo rifle..

 

The only reason to choose between these two rifles would be intended use, as their accuracy potential would be nearly the same, especially if the 1710 was a heavy barrel. Shot from a machine rest, you would see little difference, and about the same as from specimen to specimen of the same rifle, than from different versions. Now practical accuracy is different, and that would come down to what the gun will be used for, target, benchrest, silhouette, etc.
One thing to remember, if you are looking for a top of the line trigger, and I mean the BEST, then the 54.18 will have a trigger that cannot be bested, benchrest quality right from the factory. The 1710 will have a fine trigger, no question about it, probably one of the finest sporter triggers made, but not in a league with the 5018 trigger of the 54.18. There may be some aftermarket triggers for other rifles that are close, but the 5018 trigger is the best there is, period.

 

Anschutz produces a better trigger than the 5018 on the 8002/9003 air rifles. I owned 2 9003s, and both triggers were ahead of the 5018s I have. I also have a Walther LG400 and the trigger is better than the 5018s. I actually think Anschutz should and will upgrade the 5018 triggers. The 5018 is fantastic, but newer designs are even better.
As far as a 1710 to 54:18 msr, I would recommend the MSR. A pound or so heavier, and a much more refined shooting machine. I have 3 MS/MSR rifles, 3 1712s, 1 1717, and 1 1710 now.

 

Hey guys, I appreciate all of the input. I just orderd a 54.18 from Champion Shooters, and sent a deposite to Leroy @ Canyon Creek. I am a pig for accurate rifles and would like to shoot some compitition, but just don't have the time. All of my rimfires shoot ragged one hole groups @ 50 yards. I had a Remington 547, and was pretty disappointed with it. I tried everything that Lapua had, Eley had, etc. It just wouldn't get it done. Again, thanks for the input, and I would appreciate any other pointer and advice.

 

Fantastic choice.. LeRoy's the best, just ask Camster.

The only pointers I have are:

Trust LeRoy, he knows what he's doing...................

But, don't be afraid to discuss with him your likes and dislikes in a stock,
after all you are paying for your dream rifle stock.

A few other things...

If you look at the pics of my stock, I had him use the Wunderhammer type pistol grip instead of the skinnier,
say Western or Cooper style. Mine was kinda based on a 1710 type of stock..

Get the custom one piece floorplate, it was like 110 bucks, but worth every penny.

Mine is glass and pillar bedded, dunno if that's his standard, but you can't argue with my factory
target accuracy.

The Ebony grip and forearm extras are also worth every penny..

I own something like 15 rifles, the one LeRoy built for me is the best looking, best handling, finest rifle I own.

 

Thanks Steinie, that is a beauty. I spoke with Leroy yesterday and am trying to decide on a piece of wood. He has some nice wood, but I am trying to keep the price in a range that I can stand. The only thing that I know about the 5418 is what I have read on this posting. I am shooting from the hip on this one. From what I can gather is that the trigger and the accuracy is outstanding. Accuracy is everything to me. I have a JSR Cooper and a couple of 40x's, and as I said, they will all shoot a ragged hole @ 50 yds. The Cooper is just a little more ragged than the 40x's. I am in hopes that the Annie will be a little less ragged than the 40x's. (I'm a picky old rascle). Can you tell me how light will the trigger adjust down to.

 

Trigger goes down to 2 ounces as shipped..

It will adjust from 2 to 8-9 ounces..

You can "flip the cam" and then it becomes an 8-20 ounce trigger..

My Sporter has the cam flipped and is set at 16 ounces, because I figger less than that is not good for a hunting rifle.

My McMillan stocked 54:18 is set at 7-8 ounces...

 

I think the triggers go to 2 ounces or less. So light that you can think about it going off and it goes off.

 

You'll be pleased,Barney.
I have another time slot with LeRoy in the fall.Though my intention was to use an action that I have already,I'm tempted to go this 54:18 route too.Tempting,as I have a few extra schekels in the account now,from my shifting to just rimfires,by selling a few centerfire pistols.

 

I have a slot for November, I just need to pick the wood and let him help me to decide on the other options that I want. Question. Since I am going with a sporter stock, should I want to try silhouette shooting, will that be a legal rifle?

 

For silhouette it would be legal if the barrel has a taper, a 2+ pound trigger and total weight less than 8.5 pounds for the hunter or standard class. For the standard class only, weight under 10 pounds 2 ounces, any safe trigger, any barrel taper. So I imagine you will fall under the standard class with the lighter trigger. For the most part, the class of rifle has little to do with the scores. Scores are about the same for both classes.